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Nvidia is a huge battleground stock – – some analysts predict its price will languish or crash, while others see it continuing its dramatic rise. It has become the world’s most valuable company by market capitalization. Here I will summarize the arguments of one bear and one bull from the investing site Seeking Alpha.

In this corner…semi-bear Lawrence Fuller. I respect his opinions in general. While the macro prospects have turned him more cautious in the past few months, for the past three years or so he has been relentlessly and correctly bullish (again based on macro), when many other voices were muttering doom/gloom.

Fuller’s article is titled Losing Speed On The AI Superhighway. This dramatic chart supports the case that NVDA is overvalued:

This chart shows that the stock value of Nvidia has soared past the value of the entire UK stock exchange or the entire value of US energy companies. Fuller reminds us of the parallel with Cisco in 2000. Back then, Cisco was a key supplier of gateway technology for all the companies scrambling to get into this hot new thing called the internet. Cisco valuation went to the moon, then crashed and burned when the mania around the internet subsided to a more sober set of applications. Cisco lost over 70% of its value in a year, and still has not regained the share price it had 25 years ago:

… [Nvidia] is riding a cycle in which investment becomes overinvestment, because that is what we do in every business cycle. It happened in the late 1990s and it will happen again this time.

…there are innumerable startups of all kinds, as well as existing companies, venturing into AI in a scramble to compete for any slice of market share. This is a huge source of Nvidia’s growth as the beating heart of the industry, similar to how Cisco Systems exploded during the internet infrastructure boom. Inevitably, there will be winners and losers. There will be far more losers than winners. When the losers go out of business or are acquired, Nvidia’s customer base will shrink and so will their revenue and earnings growth rates. That is what happened during the internet infrastructure booms of the late 1990s.

Fuller doesn’t quite say Nvidia is overvalued, just that it’s P/E is unlikely to expand further, hence any further stock price increases will have to be produced the old-fashioned way, by actual earnings growth. There are more bearish views than Fuller’s, I chose his because it was measured.

And on behalf of the bulls, here is noob Weebler Finance, telling us that Nvidia Will Never Be This Cheap Again: The AI Revolution Has Just Begun:

AI adoption isn’t happening in a single sequence; it’s actually unfolding across multiple industries and use cases simultaneously. Because of these parallel market build-outs, hyper-scalers, sovereign AI, enterprises, robotics, and physical AI are all independently contributing to the infrastructure surge.

…Overall, I believe there are clear signs that indicate current spending on AI infrastructure is similar to the early innings of prior technology buildouts like the internet or cloud computing. In both those cases, the first waves of investment were primarily about laying the foundation, while true value creation and exponential growth came years later as applications multiplied and usage scaled.

As a pure picks and shovels play, Nvidia stands to capture the lion’s share of this foundational build-out because its GPUs, networking systems, and software ecosystem have become the de facto standard for accelerated computing. Its GPUs lead in raw performance, energy efficiency, and scalability. We clearly see this with the GB300 delivering 50x per-token efficiency following its launch. Its networking stack has become indispensable, with the Spectrum-X Ethernet already hitting a $10b annualized run rate and NVLink enabling scaling beyond PCIe limits. Above all, Nvidia clearly shows a combined stack advantage, which positions it to become the dominant utility provider of AI compute.

… I believe that Nvidia at its current price of ~$182, is remarkably cheap given the value it offers. Add to this the strong secular tailwinds the company faces and its picks-and-shovels positioning, and the value proposition becomes all the more undeniable.

My view: Out of sheer FOMO, I hold a little NVDA stock directly, and much more by participating in various funds (e.g. QQQ, SPY), nearly all of which hold a bunch of NVDA. I have hedged some by selling puts and covered calls that net me about 20% in twelve months, even if stock price does not go up. Nvidia P/E (~ 40) is on the high side, but not really when considering the growth rate of the company. It seems to me that the bulk of the AI spend is by the four AI “hyperscalers” (Google, Meta, Amazon, Microsoft). They make bazillions of dollars on their regular (non-AI) businesses, and so they have plenty of money to burn in purchasing Nvidia chips. If they ever slow their spend, it’s time to reconsider Nvidia stock. But there should be plenty of warning of that, probably no near time crisis: last time I checked, Nvidia production was sold out for a full year ahead of time. I have no doubt that their sales revenue will continue to increase. But earnings will depend on how long they can continue to command their stupendous c. 50% net profit margin (if this were an oil company, imagine the howls of “price gouging”).

As usual, nothing here should be considered advice to buy or sell any security.

I focus much of my investing energy in the “high yield” area, finding stocks that pay out highish yields (8-12%, these days). Unless the company really hits hard times and has to cut its payout, I know I will make those returns over the next twelve months. But with ordinary stocks, you cannot count on any particular returns. The price of any stock a year from now will be the earnings per share (which can be forecasted with some degree of accuracy) times the price/earnings ratio, which is largely dependent on the emotions (“animal spirits”, in the words of Keynes) of the millions of market participants. Will I find a “greater fool” to buy my Amazon stock in a year for 20% more than I paid for it??

I have never gotten really comfortable with that as an investing model, and so I have erred on the side of caution and generally held less than the recommended 60% or so of my portfolio in plain stocks. In hindsight, that was a mistake. Every $10,000 put into the plain, dumb S&P500 fund SPY twenty years ago has turned into roughly $200,000. One reason for my caution has been a steady stream of articles that always warn that stocks are overvalued; after going up so much in the past X years, surely returns will be poor for the next several years.

But I try to learn from my mistakes, and I am now forcing myself to hold more equities than I “feel” like. To support this hopefully rational behavior, I am paying more attention to articles that present bull cases for stocks. One author on the Seeking Alpha investing site who has been consistently and correctly bullish for the past two years is Lawrence Fuller. Here I will summarize his Oct 9 article with the tongue-in-cheek title Be Afraid, Be Very Afraid. (To read articles on Seeking Alpha, you may have to start a free account, where you just have to give them an email address; I use my secondary “junk” email for these sorts of applications, which tend to send a lot of junky (not malicious) notifications).

He first addressed the angst that says, “Stocks have already run up so much, they are due for a crash”, by means of this chart showing cumulative returns in preceding bull markets:

It is obvious that, compared to the average bull market, we are still in early innings with the present bull which started in Oct 2022.

Fuller also makes the case that the good news on earnings has spread recently from the so-called Magnificent Seven big tech stocks (Microsoft, Apple, Nvidia, etc.) to the broader market. This should serve to support further price rises in the broad indices:

The chart below, which shows a similar story, in terms of net income growth:

He concludes:

“It is also important to recognize that the valuation of the S&P 500 is far more reasonable when we exclude the exceedingly expensive Magnificent 7 and focus on the remaining 493. In fact, we don’t have the valuation problem that bears purport we have today. Hence, I advised investors to avoid the market-cap-weighted indexes and focus on equal weight or look at sectors that had been left behind during the bull market to date…Therefore, I suggest not succumbing to fear. Instead, focus on whether the weight of evidence suggests we should be in wealth accumulation mode or wealth preservation mode.”

In a follow-up article, Are You Worried About An Overvalued Market? , Fuller notes that small cap stocks (as defined by the Russel 2000 index, which is held by the IWM fund) are more reasonably valued than big tech, and so are likely to outperform over the next year.

For another bullish perspective, see Why Economic Data Is About To Get Ugly And 3 Things Investors Need To Know, by Dividend Sensei. He notes the robust growth of GDP and of corporate earnings, which can justify a seemingly high price/earnings ratio. The article summary points are:

Economic data will appear alarming due to hurricane impacts, but the economy is growing at 3% with strong corporate profit prospects and low recession risk.
Inflation is on track to fall to 1.8% by May, with real wage growth outpacing pre-pandemic trends. Future inflation is expected to remain stable at 2.1% over the next 30 years.
Market valuation is not as overvalued as feared, with potential for significant upside (up to 30% to 38%) based on corporate profit growth and falling interest rates.
Short-term market volatility is normal; long-term investors should embrace corrections for potential high returns as fundamentals remain strong.
The average 2-year return after a 10+% correction is 35%, meaning long-term investors should embrace corrections as wonderful buying opportunities. Buy with confidence in the face of any short-term market weakness, as long as you stick to your optimal personal asset allocation, based on your specific risk profile and financial needs.

This article has a number of interesting and informative sections, including on why cash flow/enterprise value is a better metric for assessing the valuation of a stock than price/earnings.