Manifold

I’m back from Manifest, a conference on prediction markets, forecasting, and the future. It was an incredible chance to hear from many of my favorite writers on the internet, along with the CEOs of most major prediction markets; in Steve Hsu’s words, Woodstock for Nerds. Some highlights:

Robin Hanson took over my session on academic research on prediction markets (in a good way; once he was there everyone just wanted to ask him questions). He thinks the biggest current question for the field is to figure out why is the demand for prediction markets so low. What are the different types of demand, and which is most likely to scale? In a different talk, Robin says that we need to either turn the ship of world culture, or get off in lifeboats, before falling fertility in a global monoculture wrecks it.

Play-money prediction markets were surprisingly effective relative to real-money ones in the 2022 midterms. Stephen Grugett, co-founder of Manifold (the play-money prediction market that put on the conference), admitted that success in one election could simply be a coincidence. He himself was surprised by how well they did in the 2022 midterms, and said he lost a bunch of mana on bets assuming that Polymarket was more accurate.

Substack CEO Chris Best: No one wants to pay money for internet writing in the abstract, but everyone wants to pay their favorite writer. For me, that was Scott Alexander. We are trying to copy Twitter a bit. Wants to move into improving scientific publishing. I asked about the prospects of ending the feud with Elon; Best says Substack links aren’t treated much worse than any other links on X anymore.

Razib Khan explained the strings he had to pull for his son to be the first to get a whole genome sequence in utero back in 2014- ask the hospital to do a regular genetic test, ask them for the sample, get a journalist to tweet at them when they say no, get his PI’s lab to run the sample. He thinks crispr companies could be at the nadir of the hype cycle (good time to invest?).

Kalshi cofounder Luana Lopes Lara says they are considering paying interest on long term markets, and offering margin. There is enough money in it now that their top 10 or so traders are full time (earning enough that they don’t need a job). The CFTC has approved everything we send them except for once (elections). We don’t think their current rule banning contest markets will go through, but if it does we would have to take down Oscar and Grammy markets. When we get tired of the CFTC, we joke that we should self certify shallot futures markets (toeing the line of the forbidden onion futures). Planning to expand to Europe via brokerages. Added bounty program to find rules problems. Launching 30-50 markets per week now (seems like a good opportunity, these can’t all be efficient right?).

There was lots else of interest, but to keep things short I’ll just say it was way more fun and informative doing yet another academic conference, where I’ve hit diminishing returns. More highlights from Theo Jaffee here; I also loved economist Scott Sumner’s take on a similar conference at the same venue in Berkeley:

If you spend a fair bit of time surrounded by people in this sector, you begin to think that San Francisco is the only city that matters; everywhere else is just a backwater. There’s a sense that the world we live in today will soon come to an end, replaced by either a better world or human extinction. It’s the Bay Area’s world, we just live in it.

Supporters of prediction markets tend to emphasize how they are great tools for aggregating information to produce accurate forecasts. If you want to know e.g. who is likely to win the next election, you can watch every poll and listen to pundits for hours, or you can take ten seconds to check the odds. This is great for people who want information- but how do prediction markets fare as investments for their actual participants?

Zero Sum

The big problem with prediction markets as investments is that they are zero sum (or negative sum once fees are factored in). You can’t make money except by taking it from the person on the other side of the bet. This is different from stocks and bonds, where you can win just by buying and holding a diversified portfolio. Buy a bunch of random stocks, and on average you will earn about 7% per year. Buy into a bunch of random prediction markets, and on average you will earn 0% at best (less if there are fees or slippage).

Low Liquidity

*Current Kalshi order book for “Will June 2024 be the hottest June ever“. Betting $200 on either outcome could move the price by 5 cents (so move the estimated probability by 5pp).*

This zero sum problem is close to inevitable based on how prediction markets work. They currently have one other big problem, though it is not inevitable, and is getting better as they grow: liquidity. There are some stocks and bonds where big institutions can buy or sell millions of dollars worth without moving the price. But in markets like Kalshi or PredictIt, I personally move prices often by betting just hundreds, or sometimes even just tens, of dollars. Buying at scale means getting worse prices, if you can even buy at all. PredictIt has a bet limit of $850 per contract for regulatory reasons. This definitely excludes institutional investors, but even for individuals it can mean many markets aren’t worthwhile. Say an outcome is already priced at 90 cents, the most you can make by betting it happens is about $94. That’s not nothing but its also not enough to incentivize lots of in-depth research, especially given the risk of losing the $850 if you are wrong and the opportunity cost of investing the money in stocks or bonds. Kalshi in theory allows bets up to $25k, but most of their markets haven’t had the liquidity to absorb a bet anywhere near that (though this could be changing).

Easy Alpha

Given these negatives, why would anyone want to participate in prediction markets, except to gamble or to generously donate their time to create information for everyone else? Probably because they think they can beat the market. Compared to the stock market, this is a fairly realistic goal. Perhaps because the low liquidity keeps out institutional investors, it isn’t that hard for a smart and informed investor to find mispricings or even pure arbitrages in prediction markets. This seems to be especially true with political prediction markets, where people often make bets because they personally like or dislike a candidate, rather than based on their actual chances of winning; that is exactly the kind of counterparty I want to be trading with.

I’ve been on PredictIt since 2018 and earned a 16% total return after fees; this was on hundreds of separate trades so I think it is mostly skill, not luck. Of course, even with this alpha, 16% total (not annual) return over 6 years is not great compared to stocks. On the other hand, I tended to put money in right before big elections and take it out after, so the money is mostly not tied up in PredictIt the whole time; the actual IRR is significantly better, though harder to calculate. On the other other hand, the actual dollar amount I made is probably not great compared to the time I put in. On yet another hand, the time isn’t a big deal if you are already following the subject (e.g the election) anyway.

Uncorrelated Alpha

The other big positive about prediction markets is that there is no reason to expect your returns there are correlated with your returns in traditional markets. Institutional investors are often looking for investments that can do well when stocks are down, and are willing to sacrifice some expected returns to get it. In fact, there may be ways to get a negative correlation between your prediction market returns and your other returns, hedging by betting on outcomes that would otherwise harm you. For instance, you can hedge against inflation by betting it will rise, or hedge against a recession by betting one happens. If you are right, you make some money by winning the bet; if you are wrong, you lose money on the bet but your other investments are probably doing well in the low-inflation no-recession environment.

Going Forward

Prediction markets have long been in a regulatory grey area in the US, but with the emergence of Kalshi and the current CFTC, everything may soon be black and white. Kalshi has won full approval from the CFTC for a variety of markets, but the CFTC is moving to completely ban betting on elections (you can comment on their proposal here until July 9th).

One great place to discuss the future of prediction markets will be Manifest, a conference hosted by play-money market Manifold in Berkeley, CA June 7-9th. It features the founders of most major US predictions markets and many of the best writers on prediction markets. I’ll be there, and as I write tickets are still available.