No Tech Workers or No Tech Jobs?

Several recent tweets(xeets) about tech talent re-ignited the conversation about native-born STEM workers and American policy. For the Very Online, Christmas 2024 was about the H-1B Elon tweets.

Elon Musk implies that “elite” engineering talent cannot be found among Americans. Do Americans need to import talent?

What would it take to home grow elite engineering talent? Some people interpreted this Vivek tweet to mean that American kids need to be shut away into cram schools.

The reason top tech companies often hire foreign-born & first-generation engineers over “native” Americans isn’t because of an innate American IQ deficit (a lazy & wrong explanation). A key part of it comes down to the c-word: culture. Tough questions demand tough answers & if we’re really serious about fixing the problem, we have to confront the TRUTH:

Our American culture has venerated mediocrity over excellence for way too long (at least since the 90s and likely longer). That doesn’t start in college, it starts YOUNG. A culture that celebrates the prom queen over the math olympiad champ, or the jock over the valedictorian, will not produce the best engineers.

– Vivek tweet on Dec. 26, 2024

My (Joy’s) opinion is that American culture could change on the margin to grow better talent (and specifically tech talent) resulting in a more competitive adult labor force. This need not come at the expense of all leisure. College students should spend 10 more hours a week studying, which would still leave time for socializing. Elementary school kids could spend 7 more hours a week reading and still have time for TV or sports.

I’ve said in several places that younger kids should read complex books before the age of 9 instead of placing a heavy focus on STEM skills. Narratives like The Hobbit are perfect for this. Short fables are great for younger kids.  

The flip side of this, which creates the puzzle, is: Why does it feel difficult to get a job in tech? Why do we see headlines like “Laid-off techies face ‘sense of impending doom’ with job cuts at highest since dot-com crash” (2024)

Which is it? Is there a glut of engineering talent in America? Are young men who trained for tech frustrated that employers bring in foreign talent to undercut wages? Is there no talent here? Are H-1B’s a national security necessity to make up the deficit of quantity?

Previously, I wrote an experimental paper called “Willingness to be Paid: Who Trains for Tech Jobs?” to explore what might push college students toward computer programming. To the extent I found evidence that preferences matter, culture could indeed have some impact on the seemingly more impersonal forces of supply and demand.

For a more updated perspective, I asked two friends with domain-specific knowledge in American tech hiring for comments. I appreciate their rapid responses. My slowness, not theirs, explains this post coming out weeks after the discourse has moved on. Note that there are differences between the “engineers” whom Elon has in mind in the tweet below versus the broader software engineering world.

Software Engineer John Vandivier responds:

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A requested regression

Please accept this as an admission of overcommittment, rather than laziness, but I posted something on bluesky and realized immediately afterwards that this can probably be easily tested.

If someone wants to take it upon themselves to regress wins over player-games lost to injury, I’d be most gracious. If they further wanted to interact that variable with total payroll expenditures (player payroll only, please), that would go further towards really testing the hypothesis. While I don’t tend to think there is much to be intuited from correlation coefficients, I would be curious to know how much the R-squared increases when you run a regression strictly over payroll and the lagged wins and then subsequently add player-games lost to injury to the independently variables. The delta on R-squared could be charted over time. There are other metrics that could be applied to try to control for overall talent, but real question is how accurately could you predict the final standings in a sports league if all you knew was player expenditures and injury luck, and if this has changed over time.

I’ll happily sit on a masters or undergraduate thesis committee for anyone who pursues this!

(Not sure there is enough meat on the bones for a PhD thesis, but happy to be proven wrong)

Blake Lively and disinformation tipping points

For those who missed the big story last week, it turns out that Blake Lively’s director and co-star, Justin Baldoni, feared that he was going to be publicly outed as an abuser and subsequently instructed his publicity team to start a preemptive disinformation campaign against her. The story is hot because the cache of subpoenaed text messages are the seeming definitition of “overwhelming evidence” and “receipts”, the victim is a prominent woman, and the activities in question are heinous. Which is all true, but I’m interested because 1) it seems to have really, honestly worked and 2) is was relatively cheap and easy, all to an extent that even surpised the alleged perpetrators.

We all know about Russian disinformation efforts at this point, but those are are the products of a government agency. They have enormous resources at their disposal. This internet campaign to pre-emptively attack and discredit a woman who is the (alleged) victim of gratuitous harassment was carried out by a small band of publicists, agents, and their team of assistants. This isn’t a billion dollar operation. This isn’t even a million dollar operation. This is a project carried out over cronuts and text messages by middle brow entertainment business aspirants looking to climb the ladder in between improving their scores at Orange Fitness.

What I’m saying is that disinformation scales faster and easier than I would have ever guessed and I don’t think I’m alone. A couple reddit threads, instagram and tik-tok posts, and tweets, all posted by accounts run and backpocketed by the publicity agency for precisely these purposes, and within hours the world has turned on a single human in a wave of disapprobation. A woman, you’ll recall, who had done absolutely nothing that would seemingly be able to give traction to public shaming.

This is a massive technology shift. If there is a final lesson to 2024, it’s we don’t know what’s real and what’s manufactured news. Worse still, those who would proclaim to be the least trusting are generally those that are the easiest to mislead, falling down endless rabbit holes of conspiracy theory and fabrication. Those conspiracy theories are fun to laugh at (and I suspect even more fun to believe with your whole heart), but I don’t think conspiracy theory falsehoods are the only plague going forward. It’s going to be joined by a growing trend of informational nihilism, an inabiilty to trust any news or information source.

It’s not that hard for me to imagine a swirling, vicious online discourse between left and right wingers, each fully enveloped in their cozy echo chambers of conspiracy and confirmation bias, while their more moderate (and numerous) peers simply drop out of the conversation entirely, unable to see the bits and bytes flying back and forth as anything more than unverifiable noise.

What happens to a democracy when the median voter believes in nothing?

David Hume’s Wisdom in the Age of AI

Nothing says “Christmas cheer” like David Hume and empiricism. I am at EconLog this week with

Rediscovering David Hume’s Wisdom in the Age of AI

In our era of increasingly sophisticated artificial intelligence, what can an 18th-century Scottish philosopher teach us about its fundamental limitations? David Hume‘s analysis of how we acquire knowledge through experience, rather than through pure reason, offers an interesting parallel to how modern AI systems learn from data rather than explicit rules.

In his groundbreaking work A Treatise of Human Nature, Hume asserted that “All knowledge degenerates into probability.” …

Furthermore, I explain why this could have implications for the limits of AGI, if LLMs learn from experience and are limited in the number of datapoints they can observe. It is also a follow-up to my summer post: Is the Universe Legible to Intelligence?

Nintendo vs Nintendo: Time Prices of Video Games in 1986 and 2024

For decades one of the most popular Christmas gifts for kids (and often adults) has been video game systems. And Nintendo has long been a dominant player in this market: the original NES arguably launched the modern gaming market in 1986 (even though it wasn’t the first, it was the first blockbuster) and Nintendo’s latest offering, the Switch, is now the best-selling console ever in the US.

As we often ask on this blog: has it become more or less affordable for an average worker to buy this iconic Christmas gift (or even buy one for yourself)?

When it comes to the consoles themselves, the Switch and NES are, perhaps surprisingly, equally affordable. The original NES cost $90 in 1986, while the Switch costs $300 today. Average wages in late 1986 were $9/hour and they are about $30/hour today. So in both years, it took about 10 hours of work to buy the console (alternatively, it’s about 25% of median weekly earnings in both years).

But as any serious gamer will tell you, the individual game cartridges can cost as much or more than the console if you want to play a lot of games. For example, the games available in the 1986 Sears catalog ranged from $25-$30. To buy just the 10 games in that catalog would cost $275 — over 30 hours of labor at the average wage, or about 3 hours of labor per game.

Today there is a wider range of prices for games, but the most expensive Switch games are around $60, or just 2 hours of labor at the average wage. There are also plenty of games around $30, or just 1 hour of labor.

The challenge with the comparison is that video games today are much higher quality, challenging, and advanced in so many ways. Is there any way to make a more direct comparison?

Yes. Nintendo offers an annual subscription for $20 to Nintendo Switch Online. Included in the subscription is access to nearly every NES game, plus Super Nintendo and Gameboy games. Not only do you get the 10 games from the 1986 Sears catalog, but many dozens more. All for less than $1 hour of labor at the average wage.

In other words, for 30 hours of labor today (the time to purchase those 10 original NES games), you could buy about 46 years worth of subscriptions to Nintendo online. That’s almost a lifetime of video game play, with many more advanced games.

Happy holidays

Did you really think I was going to write a post this week? Sorry, this week is for far flung family and nutritionally disastrous cookies.

If you simply must have an economic observation, here you go: if you don’t gain weight during the holidays you’re probably too debt averse. Consume now, pay later. It’s worth the vig.

Tradeoffs: Bluesky edition

The reply culture on Bluesky is starting to get nasty. I know this is either ironic or churlish coming from someone who wanted more tension on Bluesky (I swear I just wanted people arguing about research and papers in a fruitful manner). Maybe I am in fact just getting what I asked for (oops). So what exactly can we do about said reaping of cursed sowing?

I don’t have any genious suggestions in the face of a very difficult exercise in tradeoffs. On the one hand we have the status quo of an open forum where we incur the cost of jerks and interlopers poisoning the conversation. On the other hand we could set up barriers to entry around the conversation, turning Bluesky into a very large #EconSky slack channel with hundreds (thousands?) of economists, policy professionals, and journalists engaging in a conversation. This sounds great at first blush, but the idea of finding new and innovative ways to make economics an even more insular club of insiders does not appeal to me. The costs go beyond that, though, because once you decide to wall something off, mechanisms have to be put in place to admit new members (and kick out misbehavers). Those mechanisms come with their own set of problems, including the costs borne by those who must see to the administering and oversight of those mechanisms.

So what’s the answer? I don’t have a silver bullet, but I am a big fan of trivial costs of entry that will only affect those attempting to enter “at scale” i.e. troll farms. Some sort of third party registration using .edu, .gov, and other profession email addresses. Maybe a google scholar or RePec connection. Basically, anything that will take 5 minutes for professionals to accomplish. Just enough that registering 100 accounts becomes costly for troll farms and repeatedly registering banned accounts becomes too much of a hassle for independent anonymous jerks. Such a thing could work for a professionally accredited jerks as well. If getting blocked by 3 people removes you from the register, then you have to go back and do the 5 minute registration over again. A tiny cost, sure, but I suspect a lot of jerks, after being removed 3 times, will simply take the hint or decide they can’t be bothered.

Yes, I know this means that the laws of ironic comeuppance will strike me down on Bluesky at some point, but if it protects the network from turning into Twitter I’ll take the hit.

My New Favorite Mass Cookie Recipe: Sally’s Chewy Oatmeal Chocolate Chip

For decades, our family favorite holiday cookie recipe has been a hearty ginger cookie containing, among other things, wheat germ. The original recipe author claimed that these cookies “got my family through Alaskan winters”. That’s hard core.

With my family’s help, I made big batches for decades to hand out among colleagues at work. This always included my boss and boss’s boss, and their admins. (Cynics may think what they wish of my motives there.)  Also, we like to hand out small, decorated bags of cookies to all our neighbors for several houses in all directions. We like to try to build community as we can, and this is often the only time we get to exchange words with some neighbors.

However, there are two downsides to that ginger cookie. First, it is very labor-intensive. The final mixing with a stiff dough takes a lot of muscle, and forming the cookies takes an assembly line with multiple steps: with the help of a spoon, form the sticky dough into a ball, then roll the ball in sugar, then place on baking tray, then press a blanched almond (can only find these in specialty vendors these days) into the top of the ball.    Second, this ginger cookie is a bit on the dry side – – I would usually recommend consuming them with coffee or milk as I handed them out.

Two years ago, however, an esteemed family member pointed me to a radically different recipe, for an oatmeal chocolate chip cookie. That seemed kind of decadent compared to my old favorite, but worth a try. It solved the two drawbacks for the ginger cookies. Making it is easy, just scoop into the dough and plop onto the cookie sheet. (I did buy a cookie scoop for this). And there was no need to apologize for dryness. These babies are just plain delicious. So now I make large batches of these cookies to hand out to neighbors at Christmas.

Without further ado, here is a link to the recipe for Chewy Oatmeal Chocolate Chip Cookies, by Sally McKenney of Sally’s Baking Addition. You do have to follow the directions, including the step of creaming the butter (see links in recipe for what “room temperature” means) and sugar, and using old-fashioned (not instant) oatmeal.

Here are some of my tweaks to this recipe:

Make two double batches, in two separate large bowls. Chill in fridge several hours. Set aside several hours to bake them all.

Don’t bother creaming butter alone. Just add sugars to butter and stir in with wood spoon, then beaters. Add flour, using spoon and then beaters. For adding oats, chips, etc., just use spoon.

I backed out some of the chocolate chips, and added chopped walnuts: so, in each double batch I have total 3 c choc chips (e.g. 2.25 c regular chips, ¾ c mini chips), plus 1 c chopped walnuts. It’s worth getting good chocolate chips. Ghirardelli seems to be the best chocolate chip. Guittard also gets raves.

The recipe calls for big cookies (a full, large scoop, about 3 Tbsp), but those may spread too much, and I want more cookies, so I use about ¾ full large scoop.

Bake at 355 F instead of 350 F, to speed it up a bit. (My oven is wimpy, electric). Parchment paper works well to keep cookies from sticking.

Enjoy!

New evidence on the effects of legal financial obligations

Newly published research from Finlay et al takes the deepest dive yet on how the costs of the criminal justice system impact people’s lives going forward. Leveraging the new (and phenonomenal) integrated data from CJARS, the authors look at 9 (!) separate discontinuous increases in the fines and fees associated with misdemeanor and felony convictions. The paper is exceptionally well executed, connecting criminal and earnings records to estimate a pooled seemingly unrelated regression of those 9 separate treatments. They observe null effects on future convictions, earnings, and living conditions. So does this mean we can soak those convicted for every penny in their pockets without consequence? No, I don’t think so (and I strongly doubt the authors do either). Does it mean that people, such as myself, need to soften their calls to stem the growing tide of law enforcement as local regressive taxation scheme? Maybe in some cases, but I do think additional context matters here. A couple quick comments, in no particular order:

  1. Of the 9 increased fine and fee treatments, 4 are small (≤$65), 5 are large (≥$200). Four of the large increases are explicitly raising the fines and fees of traffic offenses (DUIs). It’s not unfair to summarize the legislated treatments here as mild for those more likely to be in a state of poverty since you have to have access to a car to receive the larger treatments.
  2. There’s always a little bit of a Rorschach test with RD designs, even when the differences are or are not statistically significant. In this case we observe null effects, but it sure seems like something happens with convictions in the first 100 days after reform and then it returns to trend (see below in Panel A). That feels like a system updated the de facto rules to accomodate the new de jure. As for earnings, it’s always tough when slopes change sign (Panels B and C), but the differences aren’t significant.
  3. In the subgroup analysis there are two significant increases in recidivism, most notably a 4.7% increase in recidivism for those in the lowest predicted income quartile. This isn’t an enormous effect, but when it comes to what I consider to be a regressive tax, then focusing on the lowest income quartile isn’t an exercise in p-hacking, it’s to some degree the point of the endeavor. Combine that with the fact that the overweighting of the high magnitude treatments on driving offense can be expected to attenuate the potential effect on treated individuals with low incomes, a 4.7% increase in recidivism doesn’t seem that small anymore.

This is good research, but like most contributions it isn’t the last word. The growing use of fines and fees as revenue sources is a complex and, in many ways, adaptive system that exists to generate revenue for local governments whose revenue apparatuses hamstrung in countless ways, frequently struggling to keep the lights on (whether those lights should necessarily be on is a whole separate question). When they’re looking for that revenue, many (but not all) will arrive at the conclusion that they can only get so much much from poor people. Sometimes, such as with traffic offenses, the poorest individuals that do get caught in this system aren’t necessarily the intended targets, but rather the collateral damage. When we’re looking for that collateral damage, it’s important to know both where that damage is occuring and where it is being mitigated by local adaptation, particularly that which exists outside of the laws as written.

The Price of a Complete [Animal] Protein

I wrote about the protein content of different foods previously. I summarized how much beef versus pea and wheat flour one would need to eat in order to consumer the recommended daily intake (RDI) of ‘complete proteins’ – foods that contain all of the essential amino acids that compose protein. These amino acids are called ‘essential’ because, unlike the conditionally essential or non-essential amino acids, your body can’t produce them from other inputs. Here, I want to expand more on complete proteins when eating on a budget.

Step 1: What We Need

To start, there are nine essential amino acids with hard to remember names for non-specialists, so I’ll just use the abbreviations (H, I, L, K, M, F, T, W, V). The presence of all nine essential amino acids is what makes a protein complete. But, having some of each protein is not the same as having enough of each protein. Here, I’ll use the World Health Organization’s (WHO) guidelines for essential amino acid RDI for a 70kg person. See the table below.

Step 2: What We Need to Eat

What foods are considered ‘complete proteins’? There are many, but I will focus on a few animal sources: Eggs, Pork Chops, Ground Beef, Chicken, & Tuna. Non-animal proteins will have to wait for another time. Below are the essential amino acid content per 100 grams expressed as a percent of the RDI for each amino acid. What does that mean? That means, for example, that eating 100 grams of egg provides 85% of the RDI for M, but only 37% of the RDI for H.

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