META Stock Slides as Investors Question Payout for Huge AI Spend

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How’s this for a “battleground” stock:

Meta stock has dropped about 13% when its latest quarterly earnings were released, then continued to slide until today’s market exuberance over a potential end to the government shutdown. What is the problem?

Meta has invested enormous sums in AI development already, and committed to invest even more in the future. It is currently plowing some 65% (!!) of its cash flow into AI, with no near-term prospects of making big profits there. CEO Mark Zuckerberg has a history of spending big on the Next Big Thing, which eventually fizzles. Meta’s earnings have historically been so high that he can throw away a few billion here and there and nobody cared. But now (up to $800 billion capex spend through 2028) we are talking real money.

Up till now Big Tech has been able to finance their investments entirely out of cash flow, but (like its peers), Meta started issuing debt to pay for some of the AI spend. Leverage is a two-edged sword – – if you can borrow a ton of money (up to $30 billion here) at say 5%, and invest it in something that returns 10%, that is glorious. Rah, capitalism! But if the payout is not there, you are hosed.

Another ugly issue lurking in the shadows is Meta’s dependence on scam ads for some 10% of its ad revenues. Reuters released a horrifying report last week detailing how Meta deliberately slow-walks or ignores legitimate complaints about false advertising and even more nefarious mis-uses of Facebook. Chilling specific anecdotes abound, but they seem to be part of a pattern of Meta choosing to not aggressively curtail known fraud, because doing so would cut into their revenue. They focus their enforcement efforts in regions where their hands are likely to be slapped hardest by regulators, while continuing to let advertisers defraud users wherever they can get away with it:

…Meta has internally acknowledged that regulatory fines for scam ads are certain, and anticipates penalties of up to $1 billion, according to one internal document.

But those fines would be much smaller than Meta’s revenue from scam ads, a separate document from November 2024 states. Every six months, Meta earns $3.5 billion from just the portion of scam ads that “present higher legal risk,” the document says, such as those falsely claiming to represent a consumer brand or public figure or demonstrating other signs of deceit. That figure almost certainly exceeds “the cost of any regulatory settlement involving scam ads.”

Rather than voluntarily agreeing to do more to vet advertisers, the same document states, the company’s leadership decided to act only in response to impending regulatory action.

Thus, the seamy underside of capitalism. And this:

…The company only bans advertisers if its automated systems predict the marketers are at least 95% certain to be committing fraud, the documents show. If the company is less certain – but still believes the advertiser is a likely scammer – Meta charges higher ad rates as a penalty, according to the documents. 

So…if Meta is 94% (but not 95%) sure that an ad is a fraud, they will still let it run, but just charge more for it.  Sweet. Guess that sort of thinking is why Zuck is worth $250 million, and I’m not.

But never fear, Meta’s P/E is the lowest of the Mag 7 group, so maybe it is a buy after all:

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As usual, nothing here should be considered advice to buy or sell any security.

Bright Mornings Help Parents

Joy Buchanan2 Comments

In the United States, most people just turned their clocks back one hour for the end of Daylight Saving Time. This annual ritual happens in fall when we “gain” an extra hour of sleep but also notice that the sun starts setting earlier in the evening.

For many of us, we get, once again, bright daylight at least 30 minutes before the kids are due at school. In most parts of the country, that means sunrise is now somewhere between 6:30 and 7:00 a.m. This helps families who are trying to get moving, find shoes, and make breakfast before the first bell rings. The morning light makes it feel to kids like the day is starting as opposed to Mom trying to “make them get up.”

Although every child and schedule is different, sunlight helps parents navigate the morning with their dependents.

I hear people complain every year that they can’t hang out with friends in the daylight after work once the clocks change. I understand that. It’s not easy to balance all these competing needs. If I were only in charge of myself, I could imagine getting up in total darkness and finishing work with a couple of hours of daylight left to enjoy. I think I could handle that just fine. But as a society, with kids, parents, teachers, bus drivers, and caregivers all trying to operate on a shared schedule, it seems reasonable to prioritize morning light. That’s when the essential stuff happens. If it helps parents, consider keeping it.

A last note for parents: If this system is going to work, turn off devices and screens at some reasonable time such as before 8:30pm. Otherwise, the world practically turning on its axis to help you (okay, I’m exaggerating) won’t do much good. The blue light from phones, tablets, and televisions suppresses melatonin, the hormone that helps us fall asleep, and tricks the brain into thinking it’s still daytime. As a bonus, if you were hoping your kid would read more, they might read before bed if it’s the only thing they are allowed to do. Reading a paper book with a normal light does not mess up the sleep schedule so much.

The brilliant thing about reading to kids who are in bed is that, if they aren’t paying attention, you can turn out the light and tell them they are going to sleep 5 minutes early.  This works best if it’s pitch-black dark outside at bedtime. Stop scrolling and go to sleep (if you are reading this after dark).

Some people deal with different circumstances close to the poles like seasonal depression. I have no advice about that, although the technology of sun-mimicking lamps is available. Maybe that’s why Americans are moving to the sun belt with air conditioning.

Interesting discussion and map on Twitter/X here https://x.com/benryanwriter/status/1985382840167457110?s=46

Optimal Portfolio Weights

Zachary Bartsch6 Comments

All of us have assets. Together, they experience some average rate of return and the value of our assets changes over time. Maybe you have an idea of what assets you want to hold. But how much of your portfolio should be composed of each? As a matter of finance, we know that not only do the asset returns and volatilities differ, but that diversification can allow us to choose from a menu of risk & reward combinations. This post exemplifies the point.

1) Describe the Assets

I analyze 3 stocks from August 1, 2024 through August 1, 2025: SCHG (Schwab Growth ETF), XLU (Utility ETF), and BRK.B (Berkshire Hathaway). Over this period, each asset has an average return, a variance, and  co-variances of daily returns. The returns can be listed in their own matrix. The covariances are in a matrix with the variances on the diagonal.

The return of the portfolio that is composed of these three stocks is merely the weighted average of the returns. In particular, each return is weighted by the proportion of value that it initially composes in the portfolio. Since daily returns are somewhat correlated, the variance of the daily portfolio returns is not merely equal to the average weighted variances. Stock prices sometimes increase and decrease together, rather than independently.

Since the covariance matrix of returns and the covariance matrix are given, it’s just our job to determine the optimal weights. What does “optimal” mean? This is where financiers fall back onto the language of risk appetite. That’s hard to express in a vacuum. It’s easier, however, if we have a menu of options. Humans are pretty bad at identifying objective details about things. But we are really good at identifying differences between things. So, if we can create a menu of risk-reward combinations, then we’re better able to see how much a bit of reward costs us.

2) Create the Menu

In our simple example of three assets, we have three weights to determine. The weights must sum to one and we’ll limit ourselves to 1% increments. It turns out that this is a finite list. If our portfolio includes 0% SCHG, then the remaining two weights sum to 100%. There are 101 possible pairs that achieve that: (0%, 100%), (1%,99%), (2%,98%), etc. Then, we can increase the weight on SCHG to 1% for which there are 100 possible pairs of the remaining weights: (0%,99%), (1%, 98%), (2%, 97%), etc. We can iterate this process until the SCHG weight reaches 100%. The total number of weight combinations is 5,151. That means that there are 5,151 different possible portfolio returns and variances. The below figure plots each resulting variance-return pair in red.

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Economic Freedom Updates

James Bailey1 Comment

In September we covered the release of the Fraser Institute’s 2025 Economic Freedom of the World report. I said then:

The authors are doing great work and releasing it for free, so no complaints, but two additional things I’d like to see from them are a graphic showing which countries had the biggest changes in economic freedom since last year, and links to the underlying program used to create the above graphs so that readers could hover over each dot to identify the country

Well, now Matthew Mitchell of the Fraser Institute has done that:

I can only post a screenshot of a scatterplot here, but if you click through to the Fraser report you can hover over any dot to see which country it represents:

The Supreme Court Case on Trump’s Tariffs

Jeremy Horpedahl1 Comment

Today is a big day not only for Supreme Court watchers, but for everyone following economic policy: the Court will hear oral arguments for the case Learning Resources, Inc. v. Trump. The case concerns whether Trump’s tariffs imposed under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act are legal, which includes the famous “Liberation Day” tariffs from April 2025.

You should be able to livestream the arguments from the SCOTUS website starting at 10am ET (though it may start a little later). SCOTUS blog has a liveblog which should cover most of the legal arguments, but if you want to follow the economic arguments there are several people you can follow on Twitter, such as Scott Lincicome and Phil Magness (you can follow me too).

Is Tesla Stock Grossly Overpriced?

Scott Buchanan1 Comment

One of the more polarizing topics in investing is the valuation of Tesla stock. Its peers among the Magnificent 7 big tech leaders sport price/earnings ratios mainly in the 30s. Those are high numbers, but growth stocks deserve high P/Es. A way to normalize for expected growth of earnings is to look at the Price/Earnings/Growth (PEG) ratio. This number is usually 1.5-2.0 for a well-regarded company. Anything much over 2 is considered overvalued.

Tesla’s forward P/E of about 270 is nearly ten times higher than peers. Its anticipated growth rate does not seem to justify this astronomical valuation, since its PEG of around 4-10 (depending on assumptions) is way higher than normal. This seems to be a case of the CEO’s personal charisma dazzling shareholders. There is always a new “story” coming out to keep the momentum going.

Tesla’s main actual business is selling cars, electric cars. It has done a pretty good job at this over the past decade, supported by massive government subsidies. With the phasing out of these subsidies by the U.S. and some other governments, and increasing competition from other electric carmakers, it seems unlikely that this business will grow exponentially. Ditto for its smallish ($10 billion revenue) business line of supplying large batteries for electric power storage. But to Tesla fans, that doesn’t really matter. Tesla is valued, not as a car company, but as an AI startup venture. Just over the horizon are driverless robo-taxis (whose full deployment keeps getting pushed back), and humanoid Optimus robots. The total addressable market numbers being bandied about for the robots are in the trillions of dollars.

Source: Wikipedia

From Musk’s latest conference call:

Optimus is Tesla’s bipedal humanoid robot that’s in development but not yet commercially deployed. Musk has previously said the robots will be so sophisticated that they can serve as factory workers or babysitters….“Optimus will be an incredible surgeon,” Musk said on Wednesday. He said that with Optimus and self driving, “you can actually create a world where there is no poverty, where everyone has access to the finest medical care.”

Given the state of Artificial General Intelligence, I remain skeptical that such a robot will be deployed in large numbers within the next five years. It is of course a mind-bending exercise to imagine a world where $50,000 robots could do anything humans can do. Would that be a world where there is “no poverty”, or a world where there is no wealth (apart from the robot owners)? Would there be a populist groundswell to nationalize the robots in order to socialize the android bounty? But I digress.

On the Seeking Alpha website, one can find various bearish articles with the self-explanatory titles of, for instance, Tesla: The Dream Factory On Wall Street, Tesla: Rallying On Robotaxi Hopium, and Tesla: Paying Software Multiples For A Car Business – Strong Sell . There are also bullish pieces, e.g. here,  here, and here.

Musk’s personal interaction with shares has propped up their value. He purchased about $1 billion in TSLA shares in September. This is chicken feed relative to its market cap and his net worth, but it apparently wowed TSLA fans, and popped the share price. What seems even more inexplicable is the favorable response to a proposed $1 trillion (!!) pay package for Elon. For him to be awarded this amount, Tesla under his watch would have to achieve hefty boosts both in physical production and in stock market capitalization. But… said package would be highly dilutive (like 12%) to existing shareholders, so, rationally they should give it thumbs down. However, it seems likely that said shareholders are so convinced of Musk’s value that they will approve this pay package on Nov 6, since he has hinted he might leave if he doesn’t get it.

Such is the Musk mystique that shareholders seem to feel that giving him an even greater stake in Tesla than he already has  will cause hundreds of billions of dollars of earnings appear from thin air. From the chatter I read from Wall Street professionals, they view all this as ridiculous magical thinking, yet they do not dare place bets against the Musk fanbase: the short interest in TSLA stock is only a modest 2.2%. Tesla is grossly overvalued, but it will likely remain that way as long as Elon remains and keeps spinning grand visions of the future.

Fresh observations of Americans working hard

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It has been over 100 years since GK Chesterton visited America. I wrote about his observations on the American “enthusiasm for work” for Liberty Fund.

Henry Oliver commented on much the same thing this week in The American art of being busy.

The whole place was as busy as a hive. It went on and on. Everyone was cheerful. No-one fussed and bothered.

And what of the Americans who are not allowed to work because of the government shutdown? Here is a guy who has rapidly found a way to work in DC again and seems “cheerful”: This furloughed IRS lawyer is living out his dream of being a hot dog vendor

This restlessness and energy likely has something to do with us being currently in the lead for the race to AI. Ho hum… building God while still having the equivalent of the GDP of a small country to drop on Halloween trinkets.

Looking Ahead: Post-Powell Interest Rates

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Jerome Powell’s term as Fed Chair ends in late May 2026. President Trump has said that he will nominate a new chair and the US senate will confirm them. It may take multiple nominations, but that’s the process. The new chair doesn’t govern monetary and interest rate policy all by their lonesome, however. They have to get most of the FOMC on board in order to make interest rate decisions. We all know that the president wants lower interest rates and there is uncertainty about the political independence of the next chair. What will actually happen once Jerome is out and his replacement is in?

The treasury markets can give us a hint. The yields on government debt tend to follow the federal funds rate closely (see below). So, we can use some simple logic to forecast the currently expected rates during the new Fed Chair’s first several months.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=1NwVQ

Here’s the logic. As of October 16, the yield on the 6-month treasury was 3.79% and the yield on the 1-year treasury was 3.54%. If the market expectations are accurate, then holding the 1-year treasury to maturity should yield the same as the 6-month treasury purchased today and then another one purchased six months from now. The below diagram and equation provide the intuition and math.

Since the federal funds rate and US treasury yields closely track one another, we can deduce that the interest rates are expected to fall after 6 months. Specifically, rates will fall by the difference in the 6-month rates, or about 49.9 basis points (0.499%).  This cut is an expected value of course. Given that the cut is between a half and a zero percent, we can back out the market expectation of for a 0.5% vs 0.0% cut where α is the probability of the half-point cut.* Formally:

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The Art of Spending Money

James Bailey1 Comment

The author of The Psychology of Money, Morgan Housel, has a new book “The Art of Spending Money” out this month. Its main point is that people tend to be happier spending money on things they value for their own sake- rather than things they buy to impress others, or piling up money as a yardstick to measure themselves against others (this is repeated with many variations).

Overall it is well-written at the level of sentences and paragraphs with well-chosen stories and quotes, but I’m not sure what it all adds up to. The main points seem obvious to me, though maybe that’s my fault for reading a book titled this when I’m already fairly happy with how I spend money. I think I err a bit on the frugal side, but I just don’t see many opportunities to turn money into happiness by spending it- I was maybe hoping for ideas on that front but I got none from the book. After reading it I don’t plan to do anything differently and don’t find myself thinking about spending differently.

Still, some highlights. The book is full of well-chosen quotes from others:

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Bad Claims About Food Stamps (SNAP)

Jeremy Horpedahl11 Comments

One of the likely effects of the federal government shutdown is that recipients of SNAP benefits (what used to be officially called “food stamps,” a term still used by the general public, especially those that dislike the program) may lose their benefits next month. This would obviously be a hardship for those that depend on this program, but it has also led to bad claims being made about the program, from both supporters and opponents of the program.

Let’s start from the political right: Matt Walsh makes the claim that by subsidizing food consumption “obviously drives up the cost” of groceries.

As with all bad claims, there is a nugget of truth baked into them. If the government subsidizes anything, we would expect demand to increase, and thus unless supply is perfectly elastic, there will be some effect on prices. However, we need to think more carefully about the nature of the subsidy.

The way SNAP works is that beneficiaries receive an electronic voucher to spend at the grocery store, which is about $300 per month on average for a household. That $300 must be spent on groceries. However, if that household had already planned to spend $300 or more on groceries, it is unlikely they will spend all of the additional $300 on food. In the limit, it’s entirely possible they will spend no additional money on groceries, merely reducing their out-of-pocket spending on groceries by $300. They will then effectively have $300 more to spend on other goods. More likely is that they will spend some of the additional $300 on groceries, and some of it on other goods.

Many studies have tried to look at the extent to which SNAP benefits affect household spending, but these were mostly observational studies. There was no treatment and control group. But a 2009 paper titled “Consumption Responses to In-Kind Transfers: Evidence from the Introduction of the Food Stamp Program” has a better approach to studying the question. Since the original Food Stamp program was slowly rolled out across the country over more than a decade, you can compare counties that entered the program first to counties that entered it later. By doing so, Hilary Hoynes and Diane Schanzenbach find out some first interesting things about the causal effects of SNAP benefits.

For the claim by Walsh in his Tweet, the most relevant result from the paper is that food stamps impact household spending similarly to a cash transfer. Yes, the program increases household spending on groceries, but it also increases spending on other goods and services. And it does so almost identically to how cash transfers impact household spending. In other words, while pitching the program as assistance for buying groceries may make it more politically palatable, SNAP benefits are no different from a similarly-sized cash transfer for the average recipient. If they do cause any inflation, they do so in the same way as a cash transfer would, and thus there is no specific impact on food inflation.

A second bad claim about SNAP comes from the political left, in this case Minnesota Governor Tim Walz:

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